We're revisiting an old post of mine, from way back in March:
The State of the Union - 300 Years. That post was written in honour of the 300th anniversary of the Union of Scotland and England. And, despite the fact that in that post I pointed out how much I, as a Scot, wanted devolution to apply to England as well, despite how much I pointed out the inherent unfairness of allowing Scottish MPs to vote on matters of purely English concern (the "West Lothian Question"), despite my fervent support of the cause of English devolution, if not independence...
...yeah, I still got the living shit kicked out of me on a certain forum I won't mention, but who will no doubt link to me
AGAIN in order to give abuse to someone who is in full support of them. But such is life. The last time I logged in there, things seemed to have calmed down though - they now have Scottish and Welsh nationalist members who made the eminently sensible point that if you are an English nationalist who wants devolution/independence, your enemies are not the Scots or the Welsh, but the
Unionists, so energy would be better directed at arguing against Unionists, not Scottish and Welsh people who actually support your cause.
But I digress...
The reason I bring that post back up is that
the subject matter is back in the news. It is not often I find myself in agreement with Conservatives (David Cameron is setting a worrying trend here) but I found myself nodding in agreement with Malcolm Rifkind when I heard him on the news yesterday. To a point.
He was discussing Conservative plans to prevent Scottish (and presumably Welsh) MPs from sitting in Parliament when devolved matters pertaining exclusively to England were being discussed. This is eminently sensible, fair, and would at a stroke prevent the West Lothian Question from arising. As such, it was instantly dismissed by the Labour government as a threat that could "tear the Union apart". No, if anything threatens to tear the Union apart it is the prospect of Scottish MPs being used to push through legislation that applies only to England.
***IMPORTANT CAVEAT*** - By "Scottish" I mean MPs who sit in Scottish constituencies, not people who happen to be Scottish.
***This hasn't happened yet, but if it should, it would be a constitutional difficulty that could make or break a government. I find it ironic that the Conservatives are the ones to raise this, since English MPs forcing unwanted legislation that only affected Scotland was the experience of Scotland under the last Conservative government, but at that stage there was no devolution, and a colourable argument could be made about unitary government.
I do however have some quibbles with Mr Rifkind, but they are not so much about the Conservative proposals as they are about possible outcomes, and the opinions of those he is appealing to.
Firstly, this "English Grand Committee" or whatever it is going to be called, that will be composed exclusively of English MPs when the subject matter is exclusively pertaining to England. What if the Cabinet minister responsible sits in a Scottish seat: - would they be allowed to direct the debate, on the understanding they have no vote? Or is the aim that no Scottish MP should have a cabinet position that exclusively deals with English matters, in which case why aren't the Conservatives pushing for a devolved Parliament for England? Having a "Grand Committee" rather than a fully-fledged devolved English Parliament seems more than a little insulting to the English in my opinion, as if their affairs are somehow not worthy of a dedicated assembly.
Secondly, Mr Rifkind stated that the reason the Union worked for 300 years was that it was "fair" to everyone. OK Mr Rifkind. If it was "fair" to everyone, could you get your base of support in the South of England to stop whining about how "unfair" it is to subsidise Scotland? That argument has slightly more weight since devolution (money goes to Scotland, but with no say as to how it is applied), but pre-devolution the South of England made the same argument. That was the consequence of Union, and the argument about "subsidising" Scotland has about as much weight as the Scottish nationalists who keep carping on about "Scottish oil money". Either both arguments are nonsense, or they are both equally valid, but Scottish nationalists moan about the oil money and deny there is an issue over the Barnett Formula, and the South of England moan about the Barnett Formula whilst still feeling entitled to the oil money. Neither can have it both ways. We either pool our common resources (oil found in Scotland managed from London, money from the UK pot going to places of most need) or we don't (in which case independence beckons).
Where am I going in this post? I don't know, and I think that matches the confusion in the two main parties. Labour want devolution for everyone except England. The Conservatives want the consequences of devolution for England without going so far as calling it devolution. The only main political party in favour of English devolution and an English Parliament is the Scottish Nationalist Party - which is surprising to some, but a natural consequence of their political stance. Everyone is complaining, failing to realise that their complaint is matched by an equally valid but opposite complaint, but nobody wants to take the brave decisions. We really only have a few options.
- Complete Union. Scrap devolution, we are all one country, stop moaning about Barnett Formula/oil money.
- Devolution for all Home Nations. Scottish, English, Welsh, Norther Irish. Each has a devolved Parliament dealing with their own concerns, with equal powers. The UK Parliament remains for matters of UK-wide, non-devolved issues. It doesn't need to be Federal, but it would certainly make things easier.
- Total Independence. We all go our separate ways. That way no-one is voting on issues that don't concern them, the English don't need to begrudge giving money under the Barnett Formula, and the Scottish can keep what little oil is left under the North Sea.
Best to sort this out now, while we're still on speaking terms with each other, because the longer this goes unresolved, the uglier this debate is going to become. Soon it will not be about the constitution, democracy, distribution of power etc. It will eventually boil down to pure hatred based on whether you are Scottish or English. Some papers and pundits (
*cough*Mail
*cough*Express
*cough*Littlejohn
*cough*) are doing their damnedest to make it a racial issue. I'm not even going to depress myself by looking at the BBC Have Your Say site - given the "strident" (ie lunatic) views expressed their on other issues, I'm sure that the majority of the posts are Scots being anti-English, English being anti-Scottish, people taking comments the wrong way, and nobody getting along.
We all live on the same damn island people, we've been through two World Wars together. Can we perhaps forget what happened in the 13th, 14th and 18th Centuries, and discuss this like rational people?